SPEAKER_00 0:00

And then we find out we found out Comic Con that John Krasinski was actually dressed as one of those aliens to give like Alien Blunt a sightline to work with.

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Did you just call his wife Alien Blunt? I think you called her Alien Blunt.

SPEAKER_00 0:16

I I might have I I was in the process of saying the Alien.

SPEAKER_02 0:21

That's going out on Instagram. Yeah, that's that's a good clip. Yeah. Big fan of Alien. She's great.

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You're listening to the O Brother Podcast. Real Brothers, Real Talk.

SPEAKER_02 0:37

Welcome to the O Brother Podcast. I'm your host, Dan Smith, alongside me. He's always my brother from the same mother, Mike Smith. Why don't I not hearing you now? Technical difficulties right off the chat.

SPEAKER_00 0:49

Yeah, no, I had it on uh mute. Welcome back. You caught me off guard there. I looked up and I saw two, one. I was like, oh, geez.

SPEAKER_02 0:58

Well, this is a whole, I mean, anybody watching right now, it's a whole something looks different. Yeah, there's, you know, O Brothers Studios here in uh Florida going under some renovations. And so I'm in the uh temporary studios for the time being. So um, but good to be back. We are going to this is odd though. Like even the sound amplification in this room is is kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

So you've taken the stuff off your walls and whatnot.

SPEAKER_02 1:26

Yeah. Are you in the same room? I'm in a different location. I'm in a totally different room, yeah. So it's it's it's a lot more hollow. But hopefully the sound is okay for those listening. We are back, Mike. We're gonna do uh film that's uh new as of right now out on Netflix called The Last House. It came out August 7th, so we're recording about a week or so after that uh release date. And it stars Greta Lee, who I I love from uh she's been in the morning show, which I've talked to you about. Uh it's a great series on Apple TV. And we're gonna talk about some streaming series later, uh, given that we're talking about a uh Netflix film here. And Wagner Mora, who of course we had just talked about when we did the Oscar run-up, and he was in the secret agent.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

And he got nominated, I believe, for that.

SPEAKER_02 2:15

Got nominated, and uh course the film was nominated for Best Picture, and there was some controversy from you on that uh particular nomination along with um Oh, right.

SPEAKER_00 2:28

You know, the international It was really a foreign film.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

Right. And I think you made a you made a good case for that. Uh we also loved him as uh Pablo Escobar in Narcos back when that premiered.

SPEAKER_00 2:41

The the cast top to bottom I really liked. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, Greta Lee was great. There was there's two sets of kids because there's a time skip in the movie.

SPEAKER_02 2:54

Right.

SPEAKER_00 2:55

So, and both, I think both did a a fine job.

SPEAKER_02 2:58

Yeah, you're right. There's there's there's technically three of one character. So Riley Chung plays uh the daughter Ruth, who's eight years old. Okay. Uh Noah Alexander is the son Graham at age 12, and then you've got two other actors, Emma Ho, who plays Ruth at 13, because there's a we we fast forward in the story. Uh Gabrielle Barbosa plays Graham at 17, and then there's an adult Ruth played by Arden Cho. So, you know, there's a couple of iterations there, but Family of Four Mike suddenly sealed inside their house with no way out, and they've got to work to survive against dwindling resources and a looming threat. Now, it's a pretty good premise. And pretty good premise, pretty good start to the movie. Pretty good start. I I was, yeah, I was on board, and then shortly after it became one of the worst films, maybe the worst film I've ever seen. This was a tragedy, Mike. I just I was it was one of those where I was angry at a certain point watching this film. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:06

So did yours just go off a cliff too? It went off the rails. Especially when they did this the second time skip. They do a couple of small skips, you know, a month, two months, whatever. Right. Then they do a five-year skip, and it's like we're in a different movie.

SPEAKER_02 4:25

Well, what I the thing that I struggle with a lot with this one and in other films, and I've told I've told you this with sci-fi, like it became it started to lean way into sci-fi, I think is an accurate description of what this looming threat that they're facing, which it just becomes completely silly. It's like a a lazy version of a quiet place. You know, we saw John Krasinski do it the right way with a quiet place, right?

SPEAKER_00 4:55

But you cannot help but compare it to a quiet place at the end.

unknown 5:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 5:03

But it was so stupid. I mean the the the did it really take five years to figure out the solution that they came to? That was just dumb.

SPEAKER_02 5:16

It it was, I don't know how much you want to talk about it. Now, I just want to say up front, I'm uh this is a early warning to not watch this film. You know, we've said, Mike, often, we don't we're not looking to come on here and trash a film. Yeah, we recognize the the efforts and and the the the talents that are brought forth to to to bring us more and more films and maybe new takes on, you know, even if it's an old premise or something, but this one just doesn't work. The story is weak. The you know the acting isn't the acting isn't too bad. I I didn't really have a problem with the performances so much. But the story it was just too weak. It was it was far too weak. And and frankly, Matthew Robinson wrote it. Uh it doesn't have a long pedigree, Mike, but what I found interesting is he's actually penned the sequel to Edge of Tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 6:13

Wow, that's a great film with Tom Cruise. Interesting connection with Emily Blunt in A Quiet Place, but correct.

SPEAKER_00 6:21

You know, so now I I couldn't help Dan at the beginning, I'd say the first half hour to 45 minutes. I'm really enjoying the film. It gets right into the action. Yeah. There's no kind of messing around. It's like, okay, we're stuck. And but then it just wow, it just goes off the rails.

SPEAKER_02 6:46

Well, uh, yeah, I agree with that. And we, you know, we know that the way they're portraying it, they get sealed in, you know, within uh just the first few minutes of the film, really. They're getting ready to go out and uh go to the movies or whatever they're looking to do, and they can't get out of the house. The doors won't open, they can't get through the windows.

SPEAKER_00 7:05

For a Christmas tree, I believe.

SPEAKER_02 7:07

Well, yes, you're right. You're right. The dad had promised them to go get a tree. Yeah, and it was raining out. It's around the holidays, yeah. So they can't get out, he's uh and it gets so panicked that's at a certain point he's trying to break through the windows and smash through, and the windows like shatter, but you can't break through, and then they kind of reseal themselves with the rain, right? The water and the rain is a big, a big element here in the story. But we know so we know my point here is that we know that early on it's gonna be something paranormal, something I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 7:46

Although they sort of teased a human element because there was like a crazy woman at the window at one point with a knife.

SPEAKER_02 7:56

Right? Like that didn't fit. Well, there's this character, Susan, I think was the character's name, and she she appears early in the film. Like soon after they and and they they can see their neighbors through their front windows, right?

SPEAKER_00 8:11

And they're communicating with like big signs because everybody has out the phone.

SPEAKER_02 8:15

Everybody has a chalkboard handy to talk to their neighbors. Like I would have been screwed. I'd have been trying to because I wouldn't have had any of that. Yeah. But yeah, no Wi-Fi, everything's out. They start communicating with the neighbors, and then there's this woman jogging through the neighborhood, and she she one of the neighbors gets her attention, and you can tell she recognizes there's the problem, and so she runs off. She comes back later, as you're describing, as uh almost like a demon. Right, at that point.

SPEAKER_00 8:45

And not explain no explanation ever comes about what she was or how that happened.

SPEAKER_02 8:52

Right. Yeah, I felt like they they did that more than once. Right? They started to give us some sort of clue and then they just never paid it off in any sort of way. And now I don't know, Mike, this it I kind of got the feeling that this was maybe a COVID-inspired uh story, you know, this family locked in and trapped in your house, no communication with the outside world type of thing. And and then I don't know, does this become like a message about environmentalism and the destroying of our oceans? Like I don't really know what the hell the point of it was. Yeah, because wasn't there like a prelude screen about there was a quote, and I forgot to quote why do we refer to it as the planet Earth when it's really bingo, the ocean or some some line like that?

SPEAKER_00 9:47

And I forget whose quote it was, but yeah, it's called the planet Earth, even though it's 95% water. Right, right, right. But again, that's not really followed up on, and the rain, like you said, the rain becomes an element because they need it to survive to drink, but then it stops raining, and it's just so hard to explain.

SPEAKER_02 10:15

I don't understand like the the I you can't even call them the enemy or the threat. I I mean I know it's the perceived threat, but what are these characters that we see? Remember when talking about A Quiet Place again, to go back to that for a minute. I remember when I first saw the original A Quiet Place, and I loved the first one in this in the sequel. I didn't hate the follow-up to that, but it certainly wasn't as strong as the second or the first and second. Day one was terrible. It was a lot weaker, but yeah, I liked the concept of it, but it just didn't quite work. The original, I remember think seeing those creatures and feeling like this is not something I've seen before.

SPEAKER_00 10:52

The way the way they use the hearing impaired. There was so much good to that movie outside of just and then we find out, we found out Comic Con that John Krasinski was actually dressed as one of those aliens to give like Alien Blunt a sight line to work with.

SPEAKER_02 11:16

Did you just call his wife Alien Blunt? I think you called her Alien Blunt. I I might have I I was in the process of saying the alien. That's going out on Instagram. Yeah, that's that's a good clip. Yeah. Big fan of Alien. She's great.

SPEAKER_00 11:33

Uh but I was I was trying to say the aliens in the movie. He was portraying an alien to give Emily Blunt a sightline.

SPEAKER_02 11:43

Yeah, and in this, in The Last House, these creatures are just I don't know, they're like squids. Uh it's just it's bizarre. And it's too much CGI. It just didn't work. I had no idea. And and there has to be, it had to be a metaphor for something.

SPEAKER_00 12:07

Well, it reminded me of um Jack Sparrow in those movies. Yes. Right? Where they have like tentacles and whatnot.

SPEAKER_02 12:17

Or like in some of the Star Wars animated series, you see that. Yes, that's right. The calamari. Yes. Uh and so, yeah, I and I just it didn't work for me. There's also this interesting, okay. So this is a nitpick, but I brought it up on the podcast before. I don't love films like this where they make the occupations and the skill set of the main characters so easily or so convenient to problem solving, right? Like, yeah, what is what does he do for a living? He's an engineer. Right. And there's so many different things that he rigs up and he jerry-rigs this and that that you know, if that's just regular Joe Blow off the street, he's screwed because at a certain point their resources are to be depleted. So they have they get desperate for food. And you, like you said, we we fast forward five years into the future, and she's built a a forest, a garden, a thriving guard is from the floor in the kitchen, which okay, that the guy was on board for that. It seemed plausible, right? But what he does is he uses, he builds this contraption, and they and you can talk about what they do with their daughter, because clearly they're not totally concerned for the daughter's safety based on what they do with her in a chimney, but he rigs this contraption to pull in and to trap animals outside the house, bring them in, and then they cook them and eat them for food, which is kind of nasty, but you know, desperate, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 13:50

The big theme in the beginning is they can't get out of the house. The door is locked. He tries drilling it, that doesn't work.

SPEAKER_01 13:58

Right.

SPEAKER_00 13:58

Like you said, they then he turns to the windows and tries smashing them. That doesn't work. But they did find they did stick the daughter in a chimney because they could see the light, and sure enough, she gets her arm outside the chimney. What was she gonna do with she got out?

SPEAKER_02 14:19

Well, if you see the the the poster for the film, that's the shot, the top of the house and the hand with the hand sticking out sticking out. I did see that. Exactly. What was she gonna do? And here's what's funny about that I'd make this this crack about them not caring about her safety. Early in the film, there's this foreshadowing about the chimney where they've got to call the contractor because he said, you know, they they had an inspector come and they said, Look, the chimney's got all these cracks that you've got to get addressed. It's the only thing currently keeping the house together. Correct. Correct.

SPEAKER_00 14:54

And it was also, did you catch the the goof where he's breaking things for you know, getting materials and he comes across a net remember when you used to go to a machine and get a Netflix movie?

SPEAKER_02 15:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 15:11

Now see, that was clever to me.

SPEAKER_02 15:13

It was clever. I appreciate it. It was a little tip of the hat, a little nod to the original Netflix, which is they had discs in these red envelopes that would get mailed to your house. So look it up if you're if you're of a certain age or you just don't remember that. That was kind of a funny little inside joke there.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

And and you know, a lot of times you go to your supermarket or your 7-Eleven and they had a machine.

SPEAKER_03 15:37

Right.

SPEAKER_00 15:37

And I used to rent movies, they were like a buck. You rent it, you bring it back, you don't have to talk to anybody, you don't have to do it.

SPEAKER_02 15:46

It's just that's another, another reason I go digital. But anyways, uh well, here's another thing they didn't pay off. So early in the film, uh, what's his name? Jason is Wagnamora's character's name. Yeah. And the wife is Anne, played by Greta Lee. So Jason, uh Anne discovers that Jason has a gun that he didn't tell her about in the house, locked in a safe up in the bedroom.

SPEAKER_00 16:10

Right.

SPEAKER_02 16:11

Right? And she's like, You got a gun and didn't tell me? Like, this is something you have to share with me, which is a reasonable uh thing to say. And he starts telling her about some recurring nightmares that he's been having. And so he, I guess, got a gun for that reason. They never it never comes up again about these nightmares or what they are. No, it ends up having it's another plot hole that has no point.

SPEAKER_00 16:37

No, but the gun comes into play at the end when they do a an amazing switch o' changeo. They go from blasting the aliens with the gun to, hey, let's be friends.

SPEAKER_02 16:51

It it was such a silly well, and that's what I mean. There's a message in this because at the end it's they make peace and the aliens go about their way, and it is what it is.

SPEAKER_00 17:02

But and the daughter makes this kind of summary of we showed them mercy and they showed us mercy, kind of like an overarching you know, that's what we should be about. I wasn't buying that for some.

SPEAKER_02 17:18

It's got a little too hokey, it did. Yeah. Now, there's a there's a a point in the film that one of the neighbors that we see in in the film, uh the they're the Richardsons. We used to know a Richardson's mic back in the day. But but they they're communicating with the Richardsons, this African-American couple that's just across the way. And I I don't know. There was something about that couple that just didn't it was just odd. But then the the wife ends up dropping dead. Right. At a certain point because she runs out of medication, I think, for something she's dealing with, I believe.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

And then the daughter gets bit like you mentioned this elaborate system he put together to fish in animals. Yes. And he fished in all kinds of things, Mike.

SPEAKER_02 18:07

I mean, have you ever seen such a potpourri of animals in your backyard?

SPEAKER_00 18:10

No. Is there anything they didn't catch? Right. Because at the end it was a zoo. I think it was a commodore.

SPEAKER_02 18:19

I mean, it was silly.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

But he gets a weasel at one point, and the daughter is like, oh, you're a you're not a weasel. You're a pet. Yeah. And the weasel bites her. So that sends the mother on this side quest in the sewers because they know one of the neighbors was the dentist.

SPEAKER_02 18:40

The Richardsons, and they have they have antibiotics. Right. Which, of course, are still effective seven years later.

SPEAKER_00 18:49

I was gonna say that. Like, if there's one drug that goes bad quickly, it's antibiotics.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 18:57

And and so yeah, that was weak. That was weak too. I didn't care for that. I love that you call it a weasel. I haven't heard that in a while. I think it's a ferret or something. I something like that. Don't know that many people refer to it as a weasel. That's a northeastern uh reference. But so yeah, I just I did not like it. I did not, and Mike, neither did anybody else because we even look at the ratings. I'm gonna share them with you right here, as we always do in the O'Brother podcast. I'm sorry if this leaning in is awkward for people.

SPEAKER_00 19:26

And this director, by the way, actually directed one of the very first, the second MCU film, The Incredible Hulk. Which I really enjoyed with Ed Norton.

SPEAKER_02 19:37

Yeah. I liked that Incredible Hulk.

SPEAKER_00 19:39

I liked Aang Lee's Hulk, but Yeah, and and it's weird because people complained about Aang Lee's Hulk because it was a digital Hulk. Well, look at the city. And then they did the same thing with the Incredible Hulk. Right. And they're doing the same thing now with Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_02 19:55

Yeah, you're talking about uh Luis or Louis uh Leterrier. He also he also directed a fur a couple of the I think the first two transporter films with Jason Statham. And I loved the first transporter film. I thought that was really good. Yeah. So you know he's got he's got a pretty decent pedigree too. But yeah, this just didn't work. Now, IMDB MetaScore, Mike, 42. Okay. That's that's that's generous. Now that's to critics? That's IMDB. Okay. Okay. That's the audience, 28%. Wow. So it's full on rotten, as it should be. And again, I was saying earlier, like, we don't I take no pleasure in coming on here and just but we have no, we do, if you're looking to us for any sort of recommendation, this is one of those where we can't sit here and you know, sugarcoat it and say, this is a fantastic, we think you that's not what we do at the Oprah of the podcast.

SPEAKER_00 20:56

Right. Like when when people sometimes will ask us to review their film, we always say to them, there's no guarantee we're gonna say good things about it.

SPEAKER_02 21:06

And that's why we always just why we always demand demand to get a screener so we can see it first. Yeah. But so yeah, this one this one just didn't.

SPEAKER_00 21:16

And it's a shame, Dan, because at the beginning I'm like, you know, this is per this is what Netflix is meant for, because there's no way this would have made it to a theater.

SPEAKER_02 21:27

No, right, but but the although, I mean, you could argue Greta and Wagner like themselves, they're they're very bankable. He was just up for uh in a best picture film nominated for best actor.

SPEAKER_00 21:38

So And we don't know when this this might have been filmed before that. Who knows?

SPEAKER_02 21:43

Sure, sure. But but yeah, I think you're right. And but this is also one of the I think the dangers inherent in the Netflix model, if you will, is this just this overabundance of content. And you know, this is sometimes what you get. And at least I didn't have to quote unquote pay for it or leave the comfort of my home.

SPEAKER_00 22:07

But uh but again we talked about during the Comic Con show like what is the value of your time on this planet? Do not waste almost two hours watching this film. It's just silly. It's just dumb. It's just not good.

SPEAKER_02 22:27

As you said, first maybe 30 minutes, pretty solid.

SPEAKER_00 22:31

Like I'm in, I'm on board, and then they just completely went left and it looked like they totally pulled the rug out because I was I was actually into it.

SPEAKER_02 22:40

You know, I wonder too I I often wonder this you know when with with actors that that are in these any, whether it's the principal cast or whomever you can't like a film like this. Okay, if you're looking at the dailies or what you cannot are you that delusional that you think we're or is it just you know you're a working actor so I'm not begrudging anybody right you're making a living and sometimes sometimes they're winners sometimes they're stinkers that's just the name of the game that's like any profession you know you have good days you have bad days so I guess that's par for the course but but you can't you know the the added pressure is you might have to go out and promote something that maybe you don't believe is really good or or maybe when you're making it right certainly it feels and then something goes wrong in the editing or it just doesn't come together in the right way and the ingredients don't mix well enough. And I think that's what we have here right like I said the premise is pretty good the the you've got a good cast uh story is pretty weak uh no problem with the directing and the acting is good so most of the ingredients are there but then you you know you throw in a little cayenne and it just goes haywire and the actors have no idea what the final product's gonna look like that's or how it's gonna play out story wise the story might have once they saw what they had for you know for villains they were probably like so whose feet do you have to lay this one at then if you had to so tough that's so tough because so many people work on a film but ultimately I look at the budget you know like they didn't put money into this to make it stronger they could have made those aliens look I believe but I don't think a three hundred million dollar budget was going to fix this story. No and that's in fact that's what we've always come back to Mike is story first.

SPEAKER_00 24:44

Yep and that's what happens is the the beginning of the story you've got a great idea this is this'll make a great movie and then you get to a certain point you're like okay what do we do now? Right right and I think that five year skip was the it didn't work.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

I wished I could have hit play and then skip two hours ahead and been done with it but it didn't work that way. So yeah unfortunately this one's not a recommendation from the O Brother podcast save your save your time and certainly if you don't have Netflix this is not a reason to sign up for it but let can we pivot? Are we good here with Last House? Okay so there there you go there's the last house uh old brother podcast review and recommendation uh to not check this one out but let's pivot Mike and talk about want to you know maybe make this more of a regular thing and and we we've done something similar and we certainly have made recommendations for series we talked about streaming series and uh and and you did a a series on our well back when we were using TikTok and even on Instagram Mike's Rex which I still fully stand behind where you would you know pick uh some film and and basically you know give it a recommendation as to why folks should see it if they haven't seen it. So I wanted to talk a little bit about some streaming shows because we've been devouring quite a lot of streaming and since we just reviewed a Netflix film let's let's pivot first to Netflix and and I'll I'll start off with a couple uh because really Mike for me at least what I have on my list I made I jotted down some here some winners and some some some losers uh Netflix first and foremost Mike because it ties back to our Comic Con visit and we met with um well we didn't meet but we were on a panel uh on a panel we were at that panel with um uh all the women in the industry from sound designing to directing and and so forth and so on and Lauren Connolly was one of the ones that was there right and she's a Emmy nominated editor who's worked on the series Beef which is on Netflix and I hadn't seen it because I had this preconceived notion of what I thought it was and because of having seen that panel and you know uh communicating with Lauren a little bit hoping to get her on the podcast at some point I dove into it and I binged both seasons like back to back like rapid fire.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

And I did the same like you told me I did hey this is really good. Yeah I think the name was the big turnoff to me. I agree you know I agree and I still I was gonna ask you this like what do you think that name stood for you know I don't even know I'm not even sure someone someone in the audience can educate about it and there wasn't really much they wanted a short title okay but the way I looked at it was hey I got a beef with you know like I here's my beef you know and they have this argument and it happens over a series of episodes but yeah that that's a good one that's a really good one and it's one I would not have clicked on.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

No I thought it was like about road rage or something I'm like I don't have room for this kind of negative energy in my life I didn't know what to expect. Right so but it is it is I think it's the best streaming series out there right now. It's that good. It's just top to bottom everything about it. And it is it's a series that is delving into some issues that I think like a lot of heavy relationship centered issues that a lot of couples and people just don't talk about. They don't talk about it honestly and so um kudos to the the showrunner the creator because it's it's fantastic everything that we're two seasons of this with completely different casts.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

Yes yes so the first cast is kind of an Asian like everybody in it's basically Asian and then the second is an American cast or you know uh in European I would say.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

Yeah yeah because you've got um uh Stephen Yun uh in the first one in the first one Ali Wong they're amazing yep uh you got Carrie Mulligan and Oscar Isaac in the second season just fantastic so it's it is it's two independent stories but they're kind of in the same beef universe if you will you know and again they you know if you look at it the way I'm looking at it yeah they had a beef and here's how they handled it.

SPEAKER_00 29:35

I think it's a stupid reason. It's probably not correct but I'll buy that I hate that title. I just hate that title.

SPEAKER_02 29:44

Well uh let's let let me move on to another Netflix series Mike that I that people should watch and and whether you're a wrestling fan or not the series on Netflix called Unreal which takes you behind the scenes of WWE it is so fantastically enjoyable that I just love it. You know any peek behind the curtain series I always find pretty fascinating and Mike nobody I mean you're one of the most studied people I know on wrestling and we go way back with wrestling but what's your take on Unreal?

SPEAKER_00 30:18

Well yeah it this isn't just the look behind the the curtain this is basically putting you in the the Wizard of Oz seat and you're the guy that says hey let's do this and let's change the that's yeah we all know it's rigged right the the outcomes are decided far before that matches although we've found watching Unreal sometimes they'll change it they have to like somebody gets injured and the next two months was planned around that person.

SPEAKER_02 30:52

Yeah and I just I can't give enough credit to and respect to the athletes both men and women in the sport I mean it it's uh the women too I gotta say I think the women outshine the men I mean they the things they do and and the extent to which they put their bodies on the line is insane. It's insane.

SPEAKER_00 31:14

And it's funny because back when the women first came in they were valets which they would walk a wrestler down or probably a Vince McMahon thing they became divas. They weren't real athletes or wrestlers they were just really good looking women.

SPEAKER_02 31:34

It was exploitation and totally and nothing more and now it's so different now.

SPEAKER_00 31:40

Yeah the women are are equal to the task of the men as far as physicality Rhea Ripley you know that's my that's my go-to I love her and again you know she's often injured because she takes these risks and it changes the stories and you get to see how it changes and I love it.

SPEAKER_02 32:03

I love it I love it. Let me let me let me pivot to you to comment on this one because I think we share the same assessment but uh this is one that's on Apple Mike your friends and neighbors yeah uh you know there's a few on Apple this is one of them I kind of love the fact that you know it's about wealthy people in reality and this one guy loses his job John Hamm it plays him and he basically realizes all these wealthy people that he lives in the neighborhood with have so much stuff and so much money that they won't miss a 200 or $200,000 watch yes or a million dollar painting and he winds up becoming a thief. So I wish they focused more on that than kind of they get into a lot of the relational ship relationship I love it because um the the uh his co-star in it his wife or his ex-wife in the film um help me out played by terrible she's a great actress okay and um oh I know she she worked with Clint Eastwood and and uh as in the boxing movie Amanda Pete Amanda Amanda Pete no no no you're thinking of you're thinking of uh the boy who cried whatever or something or boys who was in the Clint Eastwood film oh well which one are you talking oh the whole nine yards what are you talking about no no which one is looking wait that's not a Clint film look look at her I'm looking at it now what's the Clint film she was in who's the other guy that's always uh in his films how long ago were we talking we're talking a few years but I think she won an Oscar for it so it's not um what's her name again Amanda Pete Okay I'll find yeah I'm trying to find it but she's great in it and what I you know she's talking about she's going through a stage in life that is very difficult for women and she herself has gone through some significant challenges in her life and so I like the fact that they're they're introducing some of that in the storylines here. So I I actually like those aspects of the series it might not be for everybody but also there's this uh uh noir sort of element to it Mike that uh that we like I love that you know and and John Hamm comes home at night after ripping off one of his neighbors and he watches a different film noir every night yeah one of the most recent ones I can think of was Thief was the film Thief which you wouldn't think of as a classic noir but it's it's within that realm. Well while you're trying to figure that out let me go on to another one I think you're probably thinking about that's on Apple that I would highly recommend that I just watched again which is Widow's Bay starring one of your favorites Matthew Reese from The Americans.

SPEAKER_00 35:12

And ironically I was watching that and you're telling me what are you wasting your time for stop watching that and I was into it and then they kind of went back and they did like a Yeah it was trying try to give you some historical context to they did an origin story and they totally took me out of it.

SPEAKER_02 35:33

Well I gotta say Mike I've now that I've seen that again I actually enjoyed it more. You might want to give that a another watch that episode it comes like right in the middle of the series but but we also again when we were at Comic Con in San Diego remember Katie Dipold was on that panel that I was at that's right and she revealed that they're in the the process of writing season two for Widows Bay. So I'd recommend that one it's again on Apple um and then the the last one on Apple that I want to recommend is again fantastic. I think you were lukewarm and then you got sucked back in the second season which is Sugar starring Colin Farrell and you know he's um I don't know I don't want to give if you haven't seen it I don't want to give too much away let's just say there's another noir element in it and he plays uh basically a private a private detective if you will a private eye right right and I don't want to say more than that because it would kind of spoil the the the the series for folks but I strongly recommend that if you like Colin Farrell if you like uh noir type uh storylines and films this Colin Farrell just won an Emmy for Penguin that's right which he was phenomenal and this is equal yeah to that it is it is it's it's awesome um one more I want to recommend uh two more and then two that I'm gonna ask I'm gonna suggest you steer away from this one is another one on Netflix Mike called Tires like tires on your car yeah it just debuted the third season I watched it in one day and I'm done with it now too it's just it's so non-politically correct so anybody that's craving that kind of comedy this is for you and you know I would not recommend this to everybody I would not recommend this to the family no sitting around because there's a lot of sexual content there's a lot of language in it um it's an adult series but it is like the the episodes are like 23 minutes you know it's perfect it's just kind of like oh let me watch an episode and it's perfect Shane Gillis star is in it and you know he he he could be controversial comic but it's really good it's it's really good it it's just like I said there's no filter so if you're if you're not easily offended right this is some of the best comedy writing out there and then one of my favorites Stavros uh Helkius is in it who's a stand-up comedian he was in Begonia which we did a review on and then I lastly Mike want to give a shout out and a recommendation for folks back to Netflix again for season one and two of Everyone is doing great because you know we're obviously fans of uh the folks that are in the what we call the Nelms brothers universe with Ian and Esham Nelms and uh Michelle Lang and Johnny Durango and all the the the good folks there that uh finally got found a home for the season two of Everyone is doing great and it's just it's super enjoyable it's very original the acting is great it's it's super funny it's dramatic at times and uh it's just great it's I love it. It's it's good writing.

SPEAKER_00 38:54

Like if you like curb your enthusiasm I think the first season has a flavor for that the second season reminds me of the UK Office where uh Steven plays kind of a David Brent character which he humiliates himself over and over.

SPEAKER_01 39:16

Right.

SPEAKER_00 39:17

And it's you're just cringing for him. Yeah. But it's hysterical. It's really hysterical.

SPEAKER_02 39:22

It's great. It's uh it's definitely one we would recommend and yeah we're a little bit biased but trust me it's it's worth the watch. So if you're looking for something different something new uh everyone is doing great would be would be the one and you know that's uh James Lafferty Steven Colletti and Alexandra Park and on and on. It's a great cast. Lastly Mike I just want to say these are two I would steer away from Lucky on Apple and Cape Fear on Apple.

SPEAKER_00 39:47

These are both not good in my opinion and if you're a fan of the Cape Fear movies specifically stay away from it. If you don't care anything about those movies maybe you'll find something there's a couple of episodes I hung in and watched the whole series.

SPEAKER_02 40:08

Well that's the one I think not Widow's Bay I was giving you grief over Cape Fear like I was watching them around the same time.

SPEAKER_00 40:17

Yeah but uh is there anything that I didn't mention on my list that you have you know only older things like arrested development is a good I was looking more contemporary but okay yeah that's and I bring it up because it's so rewatchable like if you haven't watched it since it came out you'll find new gems in it.

SPEAKER_02 40:40

Well if we're gonna go there then I'm gonna talk about the Sopranos for a week and a half you know it's yeah I mean best shows ever made that was a classic comedy but there was so much you mean Arrested Development Huh? Arrested development I was like so much drama behind the scenes that Fox really didn't want it.

SPEAKER_00 41:00

It won the Emmy in its first year and then Fox turns it back and puts it on like Friday nights in the worst time slot. Yeah and what Netflix did Netflix bought it and then they reorganized season four because season four was a mess. And it's like a completely new season when you watch it.

SPEAKER_02 41:24

So if you've not seen it on Netflix season four four is like completely new but that's just an older one to bring up that's a good honorable mention but uh well this there you go. There's a pretty good list of some a lot of do's and a couple of don'ts um and one of those don'ts is what we started the episode off with which was the last house on Netflix. So steer clear of that one. Sorry folks uh but that trust us we will save you two hours of your life there. Mike again I want to thank the folks that have been continuing to support the podcast. We're continuing to uh see the YouTube channel grow and you know get a lot of uh activity of people that are listening to the podcast you can find the show on all the major podcast platforms uh so if you you know prefer to listen uh you can you can find us that way and and uh of course you know on the YouTube channel as well. I hope Mike uh for this person's sake uh that we at least for the last house review that we've provided here tonight that we did enough research uh to satisfy one of our critics who uh you know was not shy about coming out and and really telling us what they thought about one of the uh reviews we did which was on uh the uh film project Hail Mary yeah which I thought you know and we and we even said at a certain point I remember we said during that episode look this is about as far as we're gonna go with the science and the STEM aspect of this whole film. Correct for that reason because we're not you know we weren't doing a deep dive into the science of it all but I still stand by that uh review. Yes and uh but again this person shared their honest feedback and we always appreciate that we have no problem with that we don't always get it right uh we're certainly open to constructive feedback things we can do better uh and but I'm not gonna go research astrophage no no no but this was but this was done in a respectful way and we don't have any problem with that so keep it coming but uh yeah like and and and subscribe do all the things and the movie appreciated I'm trying to think of and you'll tell me if I got the actress wrong but I'm pretty sure it was Amanda Pete million dollar baby.

SPEAKER_00 43:47

No you got it wrong that's what I thought.

SPEAKER_02 43:49

Okay who was that I'm gonna and you know it's terrible because uh should know that as Hillary Swank Hillary Swank yeah well who won did she win the Oscar she won the Oscar yeah yeah and I I was thinking it was Amanda Pete they kind of look similar they do kind of look similar yeah I I guarantee you they're like they usually are up for the same role like doppelgangers yeah both great actresses for sure yeah yeah well there you go Mike that's uh I think gonna do it for this episode of the O Brother podcast in the makeshift studios I've been your host Dan Smith yeah you're gonna be changing over the next weeks you might be seeing this studio for a while here until I get settled but uh alongside me as always of course my brother from the same mother Mike Smith and we will see you next time.

SPEAKER_00 44:37

All right