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Mary Jane Pentony - "The Jester's" Shining Star
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Prepare to be riveted by remarkable insights from our guest, Mary Jane Pentony, who's been bewitching audiences since her first performances at the age of six. Now she's the star of the film "The Jester", shedding light on both the perks and the challenges of working in the film industry at her age.
Get ready to tap into her theatrical beginnings, her enduring love for movie magic, and her lifelong passion for musical theater. And as we venture beyond the stage and screen, Mary Jane reveals how her life has evolved post-IMDb credit and her aspirations for the future. This episode is a captivating journey through an incredible actor's life and career!
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Mary Jane Penton, Star of "The Gesture"
Speaker 1Welcome to the Obrother podcast with hosts Dan and Mike Smith , brothers from the same mother with different opinions , movies , tv , video games or more , plus celebrity interviews . Get ready , it's set . It's time for the Obrother podcast . Now , mike yeah , dan . We interviewed , of course , colin Kratzschuk , director of the gesture right . Yeah but let's be honest , mm-hmm , all of that was just to get to this interview here . Correct , this is the real star , that the real star of the film , the gesture of course , which is Mary Jane Penton , mary Jane hey .
Speaker 2Hi Mary Jane , how are you ?
Speaker 3How are you ? I'm good , how about you ?
Speaker 1We're doing good . We're glad to have you here , and now I have to ask you Is this your first podcast parents ? Awesome , now , what's crazy , is we ? So , mike , we this is kind of a nice bookend we now , mary Jane , you don't know this , but we had one of the first interviews we did on the podcast . We had our mother on the podcast and our mother turns 80 . She turns 88 this month . Oh , so now you are officially on the other end of that spectrum , of course , and happy early birthday , because you're , you've got a birthday coming up right .
Speaker 2November yeah so you was Scorpio .
Speaker 3Yes , I am , I'm on the last day of it , so if I was born one day later , I'd be Sagittarius .
Speaker 1Oh , now my girlfriend is a Scorpio , so I know all about it . Yeah , I'm gonna keep my eye on you .
Speaker 3All right , all right .
Speaker 1Yeah , happy early birthday and congrats on the film .
Speaker 3You must be totally excited about this , yeah yeah , yes , all my friends didn't believe me before , so now I can like show them on On my phone . I'll be like look at my name and like show them that it's actually real , cuz they didn't believe you .
Speaker 1Yeah , you've got a . You've got an IMD . Be credit already .
Speaker 3Yeah , it's so cool .
Speaker 1Oh , cool is that very cool now Is this the first time you've acted .
Speaker 2Have you acted in plays ?
Speaker 3So I did theater like for plays , yeah , since I was like I think six and yeah , but this is like my first movie ever , so I'm really excited now , what do you like better ?
Speaker 2Do you like doing a play , or now that you've done a movie , do you like that better ?
Speaker 3I like doing a movie better , but um , anytime I can do a play or a movie , I would do both or either so you'd love acting .
Speaker 2Yes , yeah , I hear ya now Mike .
Speaker 1Mike has done a number of plays in his time he was . He was on the set of some movies . Quite Make it as fun . He doesn't have any IMD be credits oh .
Speaker 2They , they cut me out , like you know . They would shoot a scene and I'd be the person that you know Was just at the edge of the camera .
Speaker 3What can you do ?
Speaker 2No , but I used to like plays because , yeah , once you learn everything and the play goes off , you can't stop right . Yes , goes wrong , you have to fix it on the spot . With movies , it's a lot of waiting around , right .
Speaker 3Yes , for sure , because I would be in like the green room , mm-hmm , and we would be waiting for like two hours until my scenes . But then in theater you're always on Stage and then if you make a mistake , like one time when I was in fine Nemo Jr the lights went out . So we all to all improvise , and it was crazy .
Speaker 2Yeah , those are . Those are the times that I always used to love Fell over . You know you have to figure out how to fix it in front of people , you know .
Speaker 1Now you've grown up in Maryland , yeah , and now you know . You know , my friend , miss Annie , is this right , yeah , yeah . Okay , so now miss no pressure , but she's really talked you up here . She said you're gonna go . She's fantastic and she's , you know , she's eager to see . She said , you know , let me know how it goes . I said , oh , if she's as good as you say , I mean we don't have to do anything here Right press record .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah now tell us about . So when you're filming this , you know , especially at your age how does that work ? Right , there's certain restrictions in place with , like you know , can you talk about that a little bit ? Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 3So for the movie we would get there . We would have to leave our house around like six , usually for the Markov's haunted forest scenes and it was so fun , so we would get there and we would say hi to everybody , you know , start like getting in character and costumes , and then we would go and just wait until our scenes and then after that we would go to our scenes and then Sam he's so nice , he would drive us all down and then we would get out and we would just wait in the car for a bit until the scenes were ready . And since I usually don't like horror and I get kind of creeped out , so it was an actual haunted forest because that's what people went to , you know like see , like a hundred forest , and so we went there and there were some like really creepy props .
Speaker 3So we would have to close my eyes to make sure I didn't see it , because I would get so scared . I saw it .
Speaker 1Well , I was going to say , like that , that's when you're that scene you're talking about , because you're in that witch outfit , right , you're in that , yeah , yeah , yeah , and there's , it's kind of in the midst of this really intense and graphic scene too . So are you kind of off to the side . Are you even there ? Are you just like you said , covering your eyes ?
Speaker 3Right . So I think that they might have filmed that at a different time , because I remember that Delaney , who I play a younger version of , so Jocelyn , she was going , she was , I think , on set that day at the same time I was . I think that they filmed that other scene , though a different time .
Speaker 2I don't know Now , did you have to audition for this , or yes , so so .
Speaker 3Yes , ok , my mama knows this person who she's in book club with , and I also was . I work with them a lot . So we were like she messaged mama and she was saying , hey , we need a kid to audition . Would Mary Jane like to audition tonight ? So she sent like these pictures of the script of what I'd be auditioning with . So we were like , yeah , sure , and we got there and I auditioned and then right after you know I was saying the script , they videoed it , sent it back to Colin and Johnny , who I love so much . They're like so awesome , good , and yeah , and they were like they came in and they said , all right , you got the role . And that night I found out when I was just like Wow .
Speaker 2Now it normally doesn't happen that quick .
Speaker 1Yeah , they normally see all sorts .
Speaker 2Yeah , they see all sorts of actresses , so they obviously liked you right away .
Speaker 3Well , yeah , I think they definitely needed someone soon , because I know that they were filming soon , so I think that they couldn't wait too long .
Speaker 2Right , but still to land it on your first , it's amazing . Yeah , great , it's amazing , fantastic .
Speaker 1Did you have to get out of school to film any of your scenes ? Or ?
Speaker 3I didn't , because it was mostly at night , but then sometimes I would have to go in a bit late because I'd be so tired , because we would get home at like three in the morning , because it was so late .
Speaker 2So there was no rule against you like , like , how late did you stay on the in the graveyard ? Say , oh , because obviously that's at night .
Speaker 3Yeah , so we stayed at that probably for until like maybe one in the morning . Wow , but we were , there was a lot of waiting around , so when we would wait it would take a long time to get to that . So we would wait like three hours or something in the green room and then I was like so tired and I was crying . But then we went on to set and I was like oh , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1Your excitement makes me think , if we saw that post of you kind of reacting to seeing your name in the credits , Now did you get to see it in the theater .
Speaker 3I did , yeah , and we didn't know if the cast and everyone else went to different theaters . So we asked Sam and Delaney and they were both going to theater six and it was perfect because almost all of the cast was in there , so it was like the perfect theater to go into .
Speaker 1Oh , that's great . So how was it working with Colin ? You said you got along well , but how was it working with him on the set ?
Speaker 3He was just so flexible and so kind to me and just so awesome and it was just great Cause we would refilm stuff , cause it was annoying , cause there's an airplane that just kept flying by and then they had to get all the fog right , so , like he was a champ , you know , he was great .
Acting and Filming Experiences
Speaker 1And then how about your co-star ? So you work with Matt .
Speaker 3Yes , yes Of course you know .
Speaker 1Everybody knows he's been a lot of things that Mike he's in . You said what billions right ?
Speaker 2Yeah , he's in billions right now .
Speaker 1Yeah , what was it like working with him on set ? You had that scene where you , you know , with the pumpkin and all that .
Speaker 3Yes , he's so nice too . He is like it was awesome cause we were filming and I'm fidgety , you know . So I was playing with the little pumpkin seeds and it was just really fun , cause I just put it like in my lap and I was just like playing with it the whole scene and I had to just look straight . But it was also really cool because he I watched him get his makeup on for the veins like when all that .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 3So I was getting my makeup done and I looked over and he was getting all that makeup on . I was like it was crazy .
Speaker 1So is it really pretty ? You know cause ? I think a lot of people wonder , especially when you're filming a horror movie , right , is there any moment where you're really kind of like it gets really intense ? Or you're just so wrapped up in the production of it that you're not really . It's not like , oh my God , this is so scary . Or you know what was . What was your experience ?
Speaker 3It wasn't very scary cause I knew everybody on set . I watched all of it happen . You know I understood more and . But when we went through the mark-offs thing I had to cover my eyes on some things . But I also walked right by Michael when he was wearing the jester , the whole jester costume .
Speaker 1Yeah , right .
Speaker 3So it was really funny .
Speaker 1Now do you , do you trick or treat up there in Maryland ?
Speaker 3I do I always trick or treat . I'm gonna be weird Barbie for Halloween .
Speaker 1Oh see , now I was gonna say , you could go as yourself . I mean , you were oh yeah .
Speaker 3I have that shirt still . I have like the shirt I filmed in .
Speaker 1So , oh so weird . Barbie , which was Kate McKinnon , right , you played yes , yeah , yeah . Now you said you're not typically a fan of horror or scary movies , but what type of movies do you like the best ?
Speaker 3I like Disney movies and I like the like teen drama , chick flick movies and all of that .
Speaker 1Yeah , we've covered a few of those on the podcast .
Speaker 2Definitely .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 2And now is acting in your blood . Do you think this is something you're gonna do for the rest of your life ?
Speaker 3100% . Yeah , this is what I wanna do for my whole life . Good answer .
Speaker 2That's great . Now what does your mom think of you ? Know you choosing acting .
Speaker 3My parents . They love it , they fully support it and they're always at like all my shows , which I love .
Speaker 2That's great Rats throw yeah . Now , dan , you used to be neighbors , almost right with her .
Speaker 1Yeah , so I lived in Frederick for 12 years so I was telling when we talked to Colin you know we're starting to do some prep to interview him I was seeing some of his posts on his social feed and kind of following , and then when I saw the opening shot of the movie , I knew exactly . I said that's Carol Creek , like I knew exactly where everything was . And there was a scene between the , you know , lane and Lailia , where they're in Bush Wallace downtown . Yeah , yeah . So that was really wild and you know I love living up there . I miss it .
Speaker 2Me too .
Speaker 1It's a nice time of year right now . Right , you're getting , the colors are changing and you're getting all that going on .
Speaker 3It's beautiful down here . It's all the orange leaves on Carol Creek , like on all the bushes on the side . It's just so pretty .
Speaker 1It's a beautiful location to shoot Now . Are you aware of any other movies that have filmed around there before , or I know of the Blair witch project . That's right .
Speaker 3Yeah , but I think that's it yeah .
Speaker 1I think that was in Birkitsville . I think yeah yeah . So are you currently auditioning for other things or kind of ? What's the plan there ? Just kind of keeping your eye out to see what , what comes along , or well , I have my school play Beauty and the Beast and .
Speaker 3Yeah , I'm really excited to try out for that . That's next week .
Speaker 2Are you gonna trial for Belle ?
Speaker 3I'm gonna try it for Belle and Chip . Okay , so do you sing ? I do , I love to sing .
Speaker 1I love Musical theater , theater , like I love all of it great , wow and so , and you said you love Disney movies , so that must be exciting . Now , do you ? I'm assuming you've seen the original animated Beauty and the Beast ? Yes , do you ? Do you know who the voice of Belle is in Beauty and the Beast ? By chance ? I don't think so . So her name is Paige O'Hara , and Actually met her a few times down here where I'm at in Florida . I live about 10 minutes from Disney World , so maybe , maybe you'll be the one doing the meet and greets here at she would . She would come out to the parks . She's a very talented artist , like you . She's very multi-talented and it's in paints .
Speaker 2She paints and and the little mermaid , the , the 4k of the little mermaid . She painted that design .
Speaker 3That's so cool .
Speaker 2Now , when you were getting ready for the gesture and you knew you were playing a younger version of another actor yeah , did you watch her to pick up any mannerisms ?
Speaker 3So when I first met her , she came up and gave me like the biggest hug and was like so then when I watched Her getting into character , you know , getting her makeup done , practicing some of her lines , I was trying to get a bit of a sense of how you know how she acted . But I Think that when I got on set I didn't , I just like was focusing on the acting , I was just having a hard time remembering that you know .
Speaker 2that's more important because I remember I did a Play . You know it's called who's afraid of Virginia Woolf I don't know if you've ever heard of it . No , but who's Elizabeth Taylor ? She was in it and I I forget whoever she was married to was an amazing , great actor and I watched him like I watched the movie five times because they have a movie of the play oh , wow , and I then I saw myself because they filmed it and I was like , oh my god , I'm a horrible actor Because I was trying to pretend to be him Instead of just being me and saying the lines the way I would say them yeah . So yeah , it's interesting because you do try to pick up things like that .
Speaker 3Yeah , why ? But you're a great actor .
Speaker 2No , although Dan would be a better judge , I guess .
Speaker 1We'll talk about that off air yeah .
Speaker 2So you said you're hooked up with the Met . Is that right ? So , like , how does that work ? How do you ? How do you go there ?
Speaker 3so for my school plays they were the ones who would organize all of it . And so when I just met the teachers and then I went to fun camps there and did plays there aside from school and everything , and they were just so nice there by acting teachers and One of them , miss Carly Carly Cole , she lives three doors down . She just moved in three doors down , which is really cool , oh nice .
Speaker 1So what was your ? What inspired you to get into this at such a young age ?
Speaker 3I don't know . I know that my cousin Audrey , she well , she's like my sister because she's living next door to me my whole entire life . So she was in a play . She doesn't do theater anymore , but she was in a play for fun when she was , I think , seven or no eight , and I was six and I joined and I really wanted to do it with her . So it was called Kid Frankenstein and I played Miss McGillicuddy . I played like the little old lady in it and she played the bully T-Bone , and so then I did that and it was with the Met and I was just like I love this and so I kept doing it . I did my school plays and then I started doing things out of school and then I started doing like acting classes and then I started . You know , yeah .
Speaker 2So what grade are you in now ? I'm in sixth grade . Sixth grade , so you got a ways to go , yeah , and now are you thinking ahead , like are you going to move to Hollywood , or you know .
Speaker 3I wish . I mean , I really want to go to NYU Great school , yeah , or any acting school , and I want to just have that be my career .
Speaker 2Great . I mean , you know , that was the thing when I was in college . That's when I did most of my plays . Yeah , I was in college but everybody was kind of like , well , you can't go to school for acting because you know what happens if you don't get hired . Then you , you know , you don't have a skill or whatever , right , so I want to go into law school . A huge , huge regret . Oh , I wish I could go back and talk to you and say , let's , let's both be actors . Yeah , and don't look back , especially if you got the support of your parents .
Speaker 1Yeah , that's wonderful . Yeah , and listen , your , your , your mom doesn't want to teach yoga for the rest of her life , you know . So you got to , you got to make the big bucks and tie your mom . Now , have you got ? Have you been down to Disney before ? Have you visited Disney ? So we went ?
Speaker 3was it last week ? I think ? Yeah , last week we got back from Disney and it was my first time ever being there . So it was , yeah , I loved it . It was my first time being in Florida and Disney .
Speaker 1Oh , that's amazing Now , did you coordinate that to be here when the film was being screened down here at city walks ?
Speaker 3So we didn't know , so we didn't know we would have , but it was three days before we went , so it was like , oh man .
Speaker 1Just missed it .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 1I missed that autograph opportunity .
Speaker 3Oh , okay .
Speaker 1Next time you come down . So listen , we do this on the podcast for everybody that we interview and we're not going to leave you out of it . We're going to do the same test , which is we have to know what are , what is Mary Jane's top five favorite films ?
Speaker 3I've been thinking about this .
Speaker 1And so really good . So you watched the show .
Speaker 3Okay , good , yeah , yeah , yeah I watched a bit of Collins and it's really hard because I have a hard time picking favorites , but I like it Mean girls and clueless and I like , I love the gesture , love it so much . I like the new little mermaid movie the live-action one yeah , yeah . Yeah , I like finding Ohana and Hugo . That's a good one too .
Speaker 1Oh good , oh , that's a great list , if the gesture of course has to be .
Speaker 2So what do your friends think ?
Speaker 3yeah , no of this they are all the , they all are really nice about it , but they since they didn't believe me at first , now it's good because I can just show them my IMBD and show them the pictures from the premiere and be like alright , here you go .
Speaker 2Yeah and .
Speaker 3But yeah , they , they're all like I want to be in a movie , you know if it act . A lot of them really want to be in a movie , but they don't do any acting .
Speaker 2Yeah , it takes work . Yeah , you know , and they're asking where to do it .
Speaker 3You just gotta know the right people , you know right .
Speaker 1So do you think you'll go on any other podcast after this experience , mary Jane , or have we ruined it for you ?
Speaker 3I really hope to .
Speaker 2I really hope you got a promise us that you know years from now it might happen next year , might happen 10 years . When you win the Academy Award , you have to thank us Only the first one . After that you could forget about us .
Speaker 1And if you leave Mike out of the speech . Yeah , listen , annie , was was right on the right on the mark there that You've , you've got the goods .
Speaker 3Yeah you're delightful the personality You're .
Speaker 1You're . You're definitely on your way , mary Jane . So , and and I love to hear it's so you know , mike and I , like he said earlier , it's exciting to talk to a younger person who has such a passion and knows very clearly already what they want to do , because Mike and I both regret Casing that more aggressively when we were your age .
Speaker 2Yeah , all right , don't let anybody bump you off that path . You know what you like to do . Make sure you know the money will come . You know , like people always say how you're gonna pay the rent , it will come Well .
Speaker 1Mary Jane , it's been an absolute thrill . Now Do you have any plans for your birthday ?
Speaker 3Oh , Hmm , I don't know honestly .
Speaker 1No yeah . Yeah , just to celebrate being 12 is enough , right .
Speaker 3Yes , yes and my dog and cat , will I always throw them little birthday parties . And if you know , it's probably my dog , because he's always very loud .
Speaker 1But yeah , can hear , we can hear some prancing feet there .
Speaker 2And then you know one lot do you have anything lined up right now ? Or he's just kind of in limbo right now waiting ?
Speaker 3I'm just waiting , I mean for the auditions . Maybe that's all I've got right now .
Well Wishes for Mary Jane's Career
Speaker 2Okay . It's this there's plenty more coming . I think you'll be a great bell , so I hope you get let us know we're gonna follow your career .
Speaker 1Absolutely . Yeah yeah , we'll be checking in with mama and make sure you know that we're getting all the 4-1-1 on Mary . Mary Jane , it's been an absolute , absolute pleasure . Wish you nothing but the best and continued success , and congratulations again on the jester . Yeah .
Speaker 3Thank you , you guys too , thank you for having me .
Speaker 2Oh , thanks for coming on and we'll see you down the road , okay .
Speaker 3Yeah , see you All right .
Speaker 1Take care , mary Jane you do .
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