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The Crow: The Legacy, the Tragedies, and the Impact
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We're about to take you on a journey back to 1994, as we crack open the legacy of the cult classic, The Crow. Get ready to learn the untold stories behind its graphic novel aesthetics, the pivotal roles in the careers of its cast members, and the tragic events that continue to mark its place in Hollywood history. We're not just discussing the movie, we're reliving the era it was born in, from the influence of Tim Burton to the echoes of Jack Nicholson.
Brace yourself for an emotional rollercoaster as we shed light on the dangerous working conditions that led to the heartbreaking death of Brandon Lee and injured other key crew members. Hear firsthand accounts surrounding these incidents, and dive deep into the repercussions they had on the industry. We'll also unearth the potential that Brandon Lee held as a rising star, his martial arts lineage, and the incredible influence the film has had on recent cinematic works. So if you're a fan of The Crow, or you’re just interested in a good film discussion, strap in for this episode of the Oh Brother Podcast.
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Discussion on "The Crow" Film
Speaker 1Welcome to the Yo Brother podcast . I'm your host , dan Smith . Long side me is always my brother from the same mother , mike Smith . Wow , we both got gags going on here .
Speaker 2What's going on here with the props ?
Speaker 1What is okay , explain yourself .
Speaker 2I saw you in the eyes wide shut movie . You were dead on in the corner .
Speaker 1What is with ?
Speaker 2the . Why are you wearing ?
Speaker 1it oh .
Speaker 2I'm sorry , this is because I just watched the crow and oh , I don't get it . It's whiplash from the directing , from the directing . I'll get into it .
Speaker 1I should have saved that for deeper into the maybe , but I didn't Thanks for taking us down a wormhole immediately . Good night folks . Listen , we are doing , we are doing . We're in Halloween fest at oh Brother , which of course we've been doing for the last two , three years and we're going to do a film now .
Speaker 1Arguably , you could maybe make an argument this isn't really in the Halloween horror genre , but I would beg to differ . Good , I'm glad you said that . So we're talking about the crow from 1994 starring Brandon Lee , and I don't remember Now . I think I was living back in Boston at the time so and I don't have a deep enough recall to know I must have seen this in the theater , but I'm not sure . But I did . I did enjoy the film at the time , you know , and it was kind of a sleeper head , it's sort of you know grew , and oh , it's a cult favorite .
Speaker 1Yeah , and of course you know , with the tragic death of Brandon Lee it adds that mystique to it , for good or bad , you know , and we'll of course talk about that . But let me let me just give a few stats on the film for those who may not have seen the crow . But it was released in May 13 , 1994 , 1994 , rather , of course is rated R and we'll probably talk a little bit about that , with the violence and whatnot . Budget of about 23 million . I guess it's back in 94 . It ended up going on to gross worldwide about a about 100 million give or take . Runtime about an hour and 40 minutes , which was pretty typical back then . It's directed by Alex Proyas . Did you dive into this at all ? Of course , I did .
Speaker 1Okay , so what is he ? I can't see it . The glare , the yes , what is that ? Is that a video game ?
Speaker 2No , it came in green . It's not an Xbox case . It came in green the only Blu-ray ever , and also one of my favorite Alex Proyas movies .
Speaker 1I robot , I robot , yeah right . So I was immediately like , oh , mike is going to love this , because I'm sure you didn't know until now that he was the director of dark city .
Speaker 2No , I didn't . Oh no , I knew he was the director of dark city .
Speaker 1As soon as I saw Alex Proyas you didn't make the connection between the crow and not the crow .
Speaker 2Right . So , and I still can't believe it , damn , I can't believe it .
Speaker 1Well , as we talk about the film , I mean , I think I can see stylistically right , you're talking about two kind of graphic novel looking type movies right Like Sin . City , like in that kind of vein right .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1Yeah , Now he also did a film called knowing you remember that ? With Nick .
Speaker 2Cage yes , with Nick Cage , I've seen that 2009 .
Speaker 1Yeah , All right , but let's run down the cast Now . Of course , we mentioned the star Brandon Lee as Eric Draven . I don't know if you can see my Eric Draven , I just got my Crow Funko pop and I had it .
Speaker 2Oh nice , my collection .
Speaker 1Nice . Now Michael Wincott plays top dollar . If you've seen a television show or a movie from the since the 80s , you know who Michael Wincott is . In fact , I was shocked to find out that Michael Wincott was in nope , which was of course directed by Jordan Peele Just recently . You know I mean it's a . You know he's a lot different looking now .
Speaker 2He's aged and I mean looks great . Yeah , really long hair . I think it was a wig and the crow .
Speaker 1Yeah that's what my girlfriend said too , and really it looked pretty real to me . He's got that voice . He's got that voice , he really does . But he has got a resume , like you know as long as anything .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , it's like as soon as you hear the voice , you're like I know who that is .
Speaker 1Absolutely .
Speaker 2But I don't know what from ?
Speaker 1Yeah , and just a classic sort of villain from that period of time , you know .
Speaker 2And yeah , go ahead . No , no , no , no , sorry , go . I was going to say , you know , this is post Batman , post Dick Tracy , post Batman returns .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2I'm surprised the effects were so bad , Dan Surprised the effects were so down . And he it had to be a tip to Jack Nicholson , Because he kind of has a Jack Nicholson sounding voice sometimes , and like when the crow jumps on the table in the gang room and he looks up nice outfit . You know , all I'm thinking is he's channeling .
Speaker 1Jack Could be , could be . Yeah , yeah , that's fair point , let me , let me . I'll just quickly run down some of the other cast . Rachelle Davis plays Sarah Ernie Hudson . Of course I'm the ghost boss .
Speaker 2He was really good . He was really good , he was good .
Speaker 1And he has a central role in the film , of course , as a Sergeant or Officer Albrecht Probably his biggest role I've seen him in . Perhaps Bai Ling , who plays Michael Wingcott's kind of wing woman , if you will . Named Micah Bai Ling is a very famous , especially on social media . She's very famous . Sophia Sheenus , or Shinus , who plays Shelley Webster . David Patrick Kelly , who plays T-Bird , michael Massey , who will come back to play Fun Boy . Tony Todd , who played Grange , who also famously portrayed Candy man . We wanna talk about another horror type film .
Speaker 2I think that's Far Enough .
Speaker 1No , no , no , Lawrence Mason played Tintin Far Enough . Okay , so Mike doesn't want me to mention one of the main characters in the film , who also starred in a little film Mike likes called Miller's Crossing that was directed by John , oh John Polito yeah , how would brothers ? You should have mentioned him sooner , john Polito , who we share an ancestry with . Let's be honest . Correct , he's somewhere in the boot , somewhere in the boot , it's a Sicilian blood , you know .
Speaker 1But John Polito , and he was good in this , he was really good in this he didn't give the hi hat . Again , can you stop with the recreation scenes , but that was a good one that was a good one .
Speaker 2It's not . It's not . Give me the hi hat .
Speaker 1Hey , you know I had an opportunity to do my shaggy . It worked today , legitimately , it was interesting . But so this okay , so this takes place Now . I said at the top , you can argue it's a horror film or not , but the film literally takes place on Devil's Night , which is October 30th . So there you go . Enough said you wanna quickly give us an opposite of the film .
Speaker 2Yeah , like a lot of people think , this is a comic book based on a comic book . It's not . It's a character that was in a comic book .
Speaker 1James O'Barr , who wrote the .
Speaker 2Right , it was like Colossal something .
Speaker 1Oh , I don't know that .
Speaker 2Because there wasn't a comic book at the time called the Crow . The Eric Draven was a character in this . Anyways , it's chilling to give you the plot , because it's basically about a guy who gets killed , comes out of his grave and wants to get retribution for not only his death but the death of his fiance , Shelly Webster . Webster , thank you . Right , right , and really that's the key . They start on the break into the house , Right , and , like I said , if you ever wanna make your bad guys really bad , have them commit rape .
Speaker 2Yeah , exactly that makes them instant evil .
Speaker 1For sure .
Speaker 2yeah Like the accused with Jodie Foster .
Speaker 1Yeah , or any other for that matter , but you're right . And then , of course , brandon Lee's character , eric , he's resurrected and he comes back and basically to avenge the death , like you said , correct ? You know it was interesting . You don't think the opening , you weren't getting Dark City vibes right off the back ?
Speaker 2No , I wasn't , and I was looking for it . Yeah , and because Dark City like one of the things that really and I don't think , I think this is the first time I've watched it all the way through when he first gets shot in the back of the hand and he's holding a stupid prop hand .
Speaker 1That was bad . That effect was really bad . But overall I actually even made the comment while we were watching it that you know not bad for 1994 , but you make a good point about Batman and a few of the other films that had already been out . But then again , look at the budget on Batman versus the budget on the Correct .
Speaker 2that's a good point , so you know what I mean .
Speaker 1Good point , and it wasn't used so much that it negatively affected the film .
Speaker 2But you're right that one always bothers me that one bothered me and it kept with me the whole time .
Speaker 1Yeah , it , literally . It looks like he's holding up another arm , which basically I think it is he was .
Speaker 2It was like his arm all of a sudden was really long , and then you could tell that they were stealing it .
Speaker 1That it became like a ventriloquist
Tragic Deaths in "The Crow"
Speaker 1thing . It was yeah , but you point out again , the biggest you know story associated with the film , of course , is the tragic death of Brandon Lee , which , as you said . Now , how is Eric Draven killed ? Well , at gunpoint , right At gunpoint .
Speaker 2There's a lot of guns . And apparently you know . We know this recently from Alec Baldwin's film .
Speaker 1You know , everybody by now knows Alec Baldwin .
Speaker 2Yeah , shot the like cinematographer or the assistant director Cinematographer , I believe . Yeah .
Speaker 1And she was killed . That's right .
Speaker 2And all this came out about how dangerous the workplace was . Well , apparently , the crow the same thing it was very dangerous . They were working 18 hour days . I mean , I saw interviews Interesting and I saw the one interview that , michael Massey , I saw that too , the actor that shot him .
Speaker 1I wouldn't say the question was to specifically elicit that response from him , but he was very generous , correct In that moment in talking about the incident .
Speaker 2And he was trying to put it in the context of everyone goes through terrible things and you try to get to the other side . But at the time he was in California . This was shot in California and at the time , right after it happened , there was eight days left in the shoe . He went right back to New York , which is where he was from .
Speaker 1Right .
Speaker 2And he was in seclusion for a good year , like nobody could find him , understandably , and he died . This is the 10th anniversary of his death , the 20th of Brandon Lee's , but 30 , 30 , 30 . But I think in that interview he had stomach cancer . He seems kind of a mace .
Speaker 1Oh , really yeah .
Speaker 2And that's what he died of . And I think he was kind of at peace and he was trying to make his peace with the movie he says right in it I've never talked about it , I never felt a need to , right . I'm sure he talked to plenty of shrinks . I mean that's got to be an awful thing .
Speaker 1Well , and some of that was no , he died . He died in 2016 . He's only been healing . Oh , I thought it was seven years ago .
Speaker 2Then you know what I'm confusing his and Brandon's death . He shares a brand and died 93 .
Speaker 1Correct , correct , yeah , I really fell for yeah . Listening to him in that interview , it was really an unlike .
Speaker 2Alec Baldwin , who the next day was on 60 minutes or something . It was too soon Stay out of the limelight .
Speaker 1Yeah , it was too soon .
Speaker 2And I felt bad for him . I watched that interview , cringing yeah , you know , knowing he was dead .
Speaker 1Yeah , and this was you know . We've told a more lighthearted story on the podcast before it's a special episode . We put out about some some lovely stories of our dad , and you know this was Basically what happened was you know , we talked about these armorers that are hired to work on these films , when there's all these weapons that are being used , especially firearms , and you know , essentially what happened is a slug got caught and remain in the gun , right , and it wasn't cleared and checked properly , right .
Speaker 1So , when they ultimately went to load the . You know the dummy rounds . It pushed that slug out as if it were a live round , with the same kind of propulsion . And yeah , there's a couple of different .
Speaker 2Yeah , there's a couple of different stories and somebody even I don't know if you saw this when you were doing your research somebody made a cartoon . They had the , they had the text Glad I didn't see that and the report and they literally redid it , which they did with Alec Baldwin too , but but of course it was a lot more advanced . It was kind of like watching Charlie Brown and you heard Alex Proyas say you know , cut guys were good , and they didn't realize it was the last shot in the night . Brandon never got up . No , he was moaning .
Speaker 1They thought he was acting Well , right and especially like . I think the story was that he fell backwards . He was supposed to fall forward , right , and then he didn't move , and so they thought , yeah , like you said at first , he's acting . And there wasn't any , I don't think noticeable like blood or anything , right , right , you know , and all of that .
Speaker 2So and they're , the scene is not in the movie for for people who like get off of it and it was basically .
Speaker 1You know , this is where whatever digital effects they had at the time yes , it was a combination of that they did some script changes . They had a stunt double which you can tell . You can kind of tell the stunt double .
Speaker 2Yes .
Speaker 1It's not bad . No no , but you can tell I guess I didn't realize this until I was rewatching it . And then you know , researching some of the stuff online and whatnot , where he's , there's a scene where he's falling out of the window .
Speaker 2Yes , and it's a space digitized .
Speaker 1Right , right Right .
Speaker 2So there was another scene that's in the extended cut . I don't know if you watch the theatrical or the extended , but there's a scene where he's walking and the reason I know this is because I remember back when it happened and you know there was inside edition and extra , extra , all those shows . Well , they showed like exactly right up until he got shot , and they also showed the digitized face .
Speaker 1Yeah , Because that's it it was . It was captured on film , Right Like it was captured on film . I remember where I was when that happened . I remember walking into work and hearing on the radio that he was killed , and now we haven't even gotten to the fact that you know the , the sort of you know his father , Bruce Lee , Correct , Another tragedy , Another tragedy . You know another bizarre tragedy , another with a lot of different stories . You know , it's kind of like getting to the truth . In fact , there's an interview with Brandon on Australian TV .
Speaker 2His last interview .
Speaker 1And he's asked about his father's death . Correct , you know , and what do you believe ? And what's the story ? And this cerebral edema that he had ? And then also the story about , like he had his what is it ? The armpit , something in the armpit removed his sweat glands and his armpits removed Right and he wouldn't drink water Because he right and so and he's filming these movies , like in July and the heat , whatever . So there was all kinds of theories that with the heat stroke and that combined with the cerebral edema .
Speaker 2And then there's another story . He had a headache , a migraine , Correct , and he had an affair with this actress , Tai Ping or something like that I'm saying her name wrong but she gave him some kind of analgesic . You know it was nothing serious , but if you're allergic to it it can cause the brain to swell , and that was another claim , as it was an allergic reaction .
Speaker 1I mean , Brandon was only 28 years old . Yeah . And Bruce was 32 , very close in age but the whole story is so creepy .
Speaker 2knowing the truth , you know , knowing , because it really was kind of like about his life .
Speaker 1It really was . It was creepy . It's so strange , and even the fact that he was engaged at the time Right right . For like a couple of years , I think , to Eliza Right and they put her name up at the end . Yeah , Eliza Hutton .
Speaker 2Brandon and Eliza .
Speaker 1Of course , when this all went down , it seems as though this is where Paramount Pictures said we're good and they didn't want anything to do with the film at that point . Yeah , and that's when Miramax steps in and they distribute the film .
Speaker 2Alex Proyas didn't wanna finish the film . And he was dead setting against the sequels . And now , right now , there's a reboot that was greenlit , and do you know who was the actor ?
Speaker 1Bill Skers , skers , but here's a weird thing . I've also seen things like Jason Momoa and some all kinds of crazy things .
Speaker 2It's been a good job .
Speaker 1Markey Mark , but here's what about this that you're talking about . So , but before we get to that , there's already been three sequels . Right , horrible , all terrible .
Speaker 2And Houston Dunce was in one of them . She played the little girl . She was in the second one , I think yeah , and then City of Angels , I think there was a TV series in Canada about it .
Speaker 1Correct , so they've tried to , but there were different characters .
Speaker 2They weren't playing Eric Draven , they were playing somebody else and they were trying to redeem somebody else's death . It wasn't the same characters . Right the silliest one was with Edward Furlong , Edward Furlong yeah , I mean , he looks . It's like what's Edward Furlong , dressed like a clown .
Speaker 1That cast , if you read that cast , is very interesting . It's a lot in the same vein , but what I read about this reboot supposedly that's slated for 2024 , is it wrapped in 2022. ?
Speaker 2Did you read that ?
Speaker 1I think I did and I was like and it's been held up in post-broad for two years , Like what is going on .
Speaker 2I don't know if they're having trouble getting somebody Because again Alex Proyes doesn't want anything to do with it .
Speaker 1So this , okay , but if the story is true , that this has already been filmed and yeah , where is it , I don't know , but Scarce and for people who don't know who we're talking about .
Speaker 2Bill Scars guard is famous for being penny wise .
Speaker 1He was in it course from it , yeah , yeah . So it's right up his alley in terms of the genre . But yeah , now I also saw there was a clip . Of course , we've talked about Rob zombie on the show before In our
The Crow and Brandon Lee's Performance
Speaker 1interview we just had with the filmmaker , bruce Wemble Mm-hmm , we were talking about zombie because he and I both as you are , you know , fans of the zombie version Certainly the first Halloween that's first one .
Speaker 1The second one not so much is grows on you , but but zombie was slated to direct the sequel to the crow . Oh , I didn't know that called the crow 2037 , but yeah , there's a clip of him on . Howard Stern talked with his wife Is it Shelley moons , no uh sherry , sherry , moon , sherry moon . Yeah , yeah , sorry , sherry , and who she also was in a lot of she's on all of us .
Speaker 2She's one of his cast .
Speaker 1Yeah , but you know , I guess they were trying to turn it into this kind of 90210 version of the crow and he's like I'm good about , but he wrote the script like the whole thing was good to go . Now see , Interested . It would have been very interesting yeah again I I wished he would have been able to complete his Halloween trilogy , but right , but he didn't , he didn't want to .
Speaker 1They offered him no I know , I know , but I think if they've relationship , they just given him what he wanted , yeah , and given him the , the artistic freedom to do what he wanted . Yeah , you know he might have done it . You know I like the film . I liked it then , I like it now . It's a . It's a very typical 90s film . It looks like it's from the , except the , the , the soundtrack , clothes and it's kind of like the . It's the grunge area era , right at the time .
Speaker 1You know in 1994 that all the grunge is going on at that point the except for what ?
Speaker 2the only thing I have a problem with is Dick Tracy , which people don't realize this , but he used . At the time of the Dick Tracy comic . There was only five colors used in the comics and Warren Beatty stayed true to those five colors and made for a really unique look . And then I look at Tim Burton , who gave everybody the matrix for how to make a superhero movie , if Richard Donner hadn't already done it . But I Think what Tim Burton did is giving you the dark way to do it , especially Batman Returns , which I'm one of the few that think it's a better film than the original . But snow and those were there . And again the budget was 50 million for Batman , I remember that , and 50 million for right , so it's twice the budget twice the budget .
Speaker 2I don't know why at that time , but Some of the things that I hated the directing , that's what I really didn't like , that the . To me , the best parts of the crow are when Brandon is talking and he's taught , he's engaging with Ernie Hudson , and A couple of those times he just kind of they just kind of end the scene and I know it's him Supposedly , you know , flying off , but right it wasn't cut .
Speaker 2Well , there was a lot of slashing and moving with the camera . That didn't like . I was like trying to get my bearings . What was that ? Who was that ? What was that ? Eric was ? No , I didn't , I just had all sorts of trouble with the directing and I'm like this is the guy who did Dark City , which is brilliant . So Well , he'd on me , yeah , but it was also giving you Dark City .
Speaker 1It was also four or five years later , so he's honed his craft more by then too . You know Well . But you like the film overall . Yeah , overall , I would you know what it is , you know .
Speaker 2Right . For what it is it's , you know it's better than it is worse .
Speaker 1I mean I liked it . Like I said , it's very much kind of what you'd expect . It reminds me the films back then that , just like literally , was filmed on a back plot , not a big , huge production . You know Brandon Lee Was , you know he was . The critics were pretty favorable of him before this film came out .
Speaker 2I have to do is look at the cover of the crow Connishing remark oh yeah , but I'm talking about before the crow yeah , he was in nothing big .
Speaker 1No , nothing that ever broke out right , but the critics were very kind to him . Yeah , oh yeah , and , and he did . You could see he did have the , but he studied Lee Strasburg . I mean , he was no chump you know right , right .
Speaker 2It's just a career ahead of him . He's absolutely .
Speaker 1He had the training , you know he had the . You know it doesn't hurt that he had the kind of ancestry and right , yeah , you know .
Speaker 2I mean yeah , it was gonna be a star .
Speaker 1I kind of wish there had been some more of his martial artistry in the film .
Speaker 2I know there wasn't really much at all , and you couldn't tell when it was him and when it was a stunt guy , because some of the stuff was really dangerous , you know , jumping out the windows . Yeah , I think it much of it was him , but yeah , I don't know how much .
Speaker 1You do see more of his , his martial artistry , in some of his other films . But you know in his own words and you can read about it , I mean he being the son of Bruce Lee and of course he's eight years old when Bruce dies right , that's a tough shadow to walk under if you're gonna study martial arts , which he did from some of Bruce Lee's students at the time . Yeah , and he did go on to , basically , as he says , I think , in that Australian TV interview talks , but he essentially , you know , attained the title of a black belt .
Speaker 1You know , but but I wish I would have seen more of that in the film now . He's a real soft-spoken guy . He really is a soft-spoken guy , very well-spoken guy too . Yeah , I would expect him not to be , but just yeah , he seemed like even in the movie .
Speaker 2You know , I'm not sure it was acting as much as it was just him being him . Yeah , I agree , you know , and he was really comfortable .
Speaker 1I agree with that . It seemed like oh , that's just Brandon Lee , yeah , which sometimes you might be critical of , but it seemed to work for no , I thought it worked . I think it lent the sweetness to his character it did .
Speaker 2those were my feet , like I could have done without the rock and roll stuff With his guitar because they didn't really go into it enough not enough but you know , when he was soft-spoken talking to the girl and talking to Ernie Hudson , those were my favorite parts of the movie . Yeah you know not , not the effects stuff for man . There was so many guns on that set a . Lot of guns a lot of guns .
Speaker 1Shooting pretty , you know , pretty typical back then and you know and then I think of , like Heath Ledger , because I I couldn't . You mentioned Batman . Now this I'm glad I just made me think I I was saying to my girlfriend , as we're watching this , because she'd never seen the crow , which is always exciting , right to go in and watch a film that somebody hasn't seen right , and you know and get their reaction To it .
Speaker 1She really enjoyed it is . I Couldn't help but but think that Heath Was inspired a little by Brandon Lee's portrayal of the crow , if you think of his portrayal in the dark night . Because there's some things , like you said that , michael win-cott , you know some lines and even just the makeup , the way the makeup is done and with the right simplistic and you know it's funny because the mythology lives in wrestling .
Speaker 2There's a couple of wrestlers Sting is one for him yeah the guy who his character was the Raven and it was clearly based on the crow .
Speaker 1Oh , clearly , yeah , you know yeah . But anyways , the crow . If you haven't seen the crow which most people by now would have , I think , seen it , but if you haven't go see it , it's a good film you can actually , like I did , I mean , you can get the physical medium . I don't know if you have any idea , I don't . I don't have the you don't have it .
Speaker 2No , okay , but I would recommend highly dark city . Yeah , dark city , this is my favorite sci-fi movie . Yeah , but you got it .
Speaker 1You got it . You got a further crow in there . I have the crow on digital , so it's in my digital library . Yeah , you can get it on voodoo and the others platforms for very it's very affordable . So if you're looking for something you know during this time of year , during and you're a Halloween and you're a half-an all-hollows eat it , it's absolutely Well , devils night .
Speaker 2Yeah . Devils night that's the devil's night , same night before . Yeah , same difference .
Speaker 1All right , mike , anything else to say about the the ?
Speaker 2crow , no I , you know , I wish we had more brand-newly movies to talk about yeah , it's , it's a .
Speaker 1You know it's a tragic story , as you said . Way too many parallels with the story , with the movie itself in his real life . Yeah , you know , it's hard to separate the two , but an enjoyable movie nonetheless . I'd recommend you see it and we'll see what happens with this reboot . I mean , you know , now I kind of like to see it off the ground .
Speaker 1I'm not thrilled about the scars guard casting , but and we don't know yet whether it's a reboot or like that story from 93 , or yeah , we don't know that yet or I'd like it to be what we're seeing a lot of now , which is a Continuation after that point . Right , right , we get everything else . It starts here . Here's where the sequel starts that that I would like to see .
Speaker 2I mean literally one of them , I think it's the fourth . One has a zero .
Speaker 1Oh , on rotten tomatoes , I mean that's hard to do it , whereas the crow's got really good radio . It's got like a 73 meta score . It's like 80 , 90 something , I think , from the audience on rotten tomatoes and yeah , it's higher .
Speaker 2It's high . I mean that's good . You know , it is good You're above 50 . Oh , yeah on the meta score . You're doing good .
Speaker 1Yeah , so well , the rest in peace , brandon Lee and yeah and Michael Massey to I yeah . I know you know it's a shame , but I'm glad to , as you kind of described , that . He seemed to make peace with it as best you can , because If it was me , I don't know how you go on after that . I , you know , it's just yeah , I mean he ?
Speaker 2he talked about calling Eliza , he talked about calling his parent , his mother and toss it with her , but other than that . He didn't share it with anyone , no and he talked about I don't know if you saw this part of the interview where he talked about being in the park and there was Eliza , married with a young girl . Yes and you know the thoughts of hey , that was probably going to be Brandon and absolutely . You know that's got to be gut wrenching for you to live with .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah it's . It's hard to even fathom , but Well , all right , that's going to do it for another episode of the Yo Brother podcast . I'm your host , dan Smith , alongside me , as always , my brother from the same mother , mike Smith , and we will see you next time . Bye , everyone .
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